Dear Alex,
Thank you for your response!
To clarify:
1. Do the platforms you listed fulfill the current rule book requirements?
2. Are you saying that those platforms are not practical to use because the shelf heights during the competion will be too low?
Another question: are there any teams out there that are using something other than the Kuka Youbot?
I appreciate your help with this!
Regards, Tobias
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Von: Alex Moriarty a*******y@fetchrobotics.com Gesendet: Freitag, 22. März 2019 02:02 An: Kaupp, Tobias t**********p@fhws.de; r*****k@lists.robocup.org Betreff: Re: [rc-work] Alternative to YouBot
I made a change to the RuleBook in 2017, after seeing the Toyota HSR in RoboCup Japan as part of the RoboCup@Home TC/OC.
https://github.com/robocup-at-work/rulebook/pull/23http://itsc-s077lp.fhws.de:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZkYTYyOGY3NTc2ZmQ3YWJiYT01Qzk0MzQyQl8xMDE5NV8xMDkzMl8xJiY4YWExNjE1NzRjNTA1MmQ9MTEzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZ2l0aHViJTJFY29tJTJGcm9ib2N1cC1hdC13b3JrJTJGcnVsZWJvb2slMkZwdWxsJTJGMjM=
At the time, I did a quick search for "off-the-shelf" robots which were available, and found:
1. Fetch Robotics: Fetch 2. Toyota HSR 3. PAL Robotics TIAGo 4. Robotnik RB-1 DISCLOSURE: at the time of changing the rules, I did not work for any of these companies, now I do, which is how I've ranked the list.
Another platform, which is too large for robocup@work, is the Kinova Movo, but worth mentioning because it's dual arm, and has a tone of space for adding/upgrading computers.
The rule change was discussed at the time, that we were preemptively just selecting a larger size constraint, to prevent losing any interested teams, but that the rules could be updated in the future if needed to. The main limitation now, is that all of the existing teams which have YouBots, which have very restricted arm range, and therefore the shelves and platform heights will continue to be small until they're changed over.
There may be other options now: https://robots.ieee.org/http://itsc-s077lp.fhws.de:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiZjNzc0ZDU2NjZhYWE3YWU2Yj01Qzk0MzQyQl8xMDE5NV8xMDkzMl8xJiY1YTcxYjE5NzVjNjA2MjU9MTEzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGcm9ib3RzJTJFaWVlZSUyRW9yZyUyRg==
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---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Kaupp, Tobias <t**********p@fhws.demailto:t**********p@fhws.de> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 14:52 Subject: [rc-work] Alternative to YouBot To: r*****k@lists.robocup.orgmailto:r*****k@lists.robocup.org <r*****k@lists.robocup.orgmailto:r*****k@lists.robocup.org>
Hi Robocup@Work people,
I’m considering to start a new team in the RoboCupIndustrial league, either Logistics or @Work.
I read that the Kuka YouBot was discontinued a while ago. Are there any off-the-shelf alternatives which fulfil the rule book requirements? Or do people need to build their own robot in the future?
Thanks for your help!
Regards, Tobias
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[cid:i**********g@01D3E068.ED1F04D0] Prof. Dr. Tobias Kaupp Digital Production and Robotics
📞 +49 9721 940-8597 ✉️ t**********p@fhws.demailto:t**********p@fhws.de
Raum 12.E.05
Hochschule für angewandte Wissenschaften Würzburg-Schweinfurt Fakultät Elektrotechnik
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