[robocup-athome] Report from RoboCup Iran Open 2010 @Home League

[David Gossow]

Dear Fariborz,

below you'll find answers to the questions / suggestions you made. Some 
issues are not finally resolved yet, but will be in an error-corrected 
rulebook version we'll publish this week.

> - Robot Inspection and Poster Session
>
> o What are exactly the expectations from the robot autonomous 
> registration? Is it enough the robot move near the table, hand over 
> the registration form and explains its specifications? Or it should 
> points its part with its arm while talking, and someone shows slides 
> about the robot explanations?
>
Basically, what we want is the robots coming to the registration desk, 
saying /doing something which makes sense and preferably hand over the 
registration form. The details are up to you.
>
> o I think it is better to add "Use of external devices" statement in 
> the registration form too. So teams announce it formally in the paper.
>
We've included that on the registration form.
>
> - Follow me
>
> o As this test takes place outside the arena, what happened if some 
> spectators block the robot? Is it possible to allow the robot do the 
> test again?
>
There will be a clear specification on this issue in the respective tests.
>
> o There is some comments about gesture commands regulations (sec. 
> 3.6.8). Does it mean just movement of shoulder and elbow in gesture 
> commands are permitted? Essentially, what is the reason of this 
> limitation?
>
You may move both arms and hands. Full-body motions are not considered 
gestures.
>
> - Who is who
>
> o In searching guests phase, when teams are informed about the room of 
> persons? Is it possible to know the room before the beginning of the 
> test? Or it is announced to robot by speech command during the test? 
> It seems the first assumption is true, because for going to the 
> correct room no score is considered.
>
This will be announced several hours before the test.
>
> o In identifying phase, after robot found the sitting person and went 
> in one meter distance of him/her, is it possible the robot wants the 
> person to stand and look at its camera?
>
No.
>
> - Open challenge
>
> o In page 36 line 11 of rulebook, the factor of 20/6 must be changed 
> to 200/6 to have max of 2000 points.
>
We've corrected that.
>
> - Enhanced who is who
>
> o Similar to who is who phase, when and how teams are informed about 
> the location of objects and room of persons?
>
See Who's Who.
>
> - Shopping Mall
>
> o How long before the beginning of the test, teams are informed about 
> the location of supermarket? Is it permitted the teams without their 
> robots visit the location before the test and make sense about height 
> of shelves and area of supermarket?
>
The teams are not going to be informed about the location or allowed to 
to measurements before the test starts.
>
> o For getting guide phase points, is it enough the robot reaches the 
> locations or it have to after standing in position says name of the 
> position? What about navigation phase?
>
The robot has to reach the locations, that's all.
>
> - General Purpose Service Robot
>
> o There was a lot of ambiguities on this test, So nobody could get 
> points from this section in Iran open. List of tasks was greatest 
> ambiguity. For example in the rule book is mentioned the tasks are 
> from stages I and II, but examples of tasks in rulebook is about 
> counting objects or persons and task of counting did not mention in 
> tests of stage 1 and 2. I saw new rulebook after Iran open. These 
> examples are removed but I would like to request from TCs to 
> explicitly announce the list of tasks, actions and its parameters, but 
> teams also have to consider all synonyms for the actions by themselves.
>
> o There are some typos in the new rulebook: {line 10 of page 42, 
> "thee" -> "three"} {line 22 of page 42 "max(Cat. 1)" -> "max(Cat. 3)"}
>
We are working hardly on this test. We do not plan to announce all tasks 
beforehand. They will be limited to the capabilities found in the 
rulebook, and will also stick to the vocabulary used there.
>
> o I have attended in 2 last competitions of @Home league. As far as I 
> know teams who reach to final section just repeat one of the best done 
> pervious tests and it is not very nice to see repetitive tasks in this 
> section. So I would like to suggest to move this complicated test to 
> final section. I think it makes to have a nice final with better 
> evaluation of ability of the champion.
>
This is an interesting idea, however we will not make major changes for 
this year.

Regards,
David
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